Infrequently asked questions

Which cards are you missing for the project?

I don't care about particular models, it just have to properly represent the chipset.
3dlabs Gigi (CT6200)
SiS 6326 revision D
Starfighter PCI 24 MB, and any Intel740 AGP with less then 8MB
Mpact 3600 with D-Sub
Permedia AGP
Yamaha RPA (YGV611 / YGV612)
from later cards Neon 250, Xabre 80, any Volari or S3 Chrome

So far I own:
3dimage 9750, 9850
Artist 3GA
Laguna3D (5464,5465)
Permedia, Permedia 2
Intel740 AGP 8MB, Intel740 PCI 12/16 MB
Mpact /3600 add-in, Mpact2
Mystiques, Millenium II, G100
Rage, Rage II, Rage II+DVD, VT4, Rage IIc, Rage Pro
Revolution 3D
Riva 128, Riva 128 ZX
6326 C1, C3, C5, 6326AGP
Verite 1000E, 1000L-P, 2100, 2200
Virge /VX /DX /GX /MX /GX2, Trio 3D, Trio 3D/2X
Voodoo, Voodoo Rush

What is your background?

I am just a nostalgic enthusiast, assessing knowledge from the internet. Forums at Beyond3d and Vogons were most helpful. I had my own little web about graphics in czech since 2004, but stopped after some years. Now I feel I can write something again, this time in English. Not a native speaker, excuse my mistakes.

You cannot really sort cards by performance just like that?

Yes I can, while knowing it is futile. When you ask most guys, even the educated ones, to choose faster cards of two they will usually answer quickly. We all have our opinions despite the complexity behind the hardware. I merely expanded the question to all desktop gaming 3D cards. There are many mistakes, generalizations, it is never-ending work and you can just ignore it.

How do you judge them, just by 3dmark or what?

No, in fact I disregard synthetic benchmarks. I spent lot of time reading many reviews. Because early 3d accelerators were not properly reviewed I am trying to examine them now on this very web. Serious business.

Your pixel shader counts and FLOPS are way off

FLOPS most probably are. I don't go with designers math if real operations are too far from theoretical. Some custom math is in place for certain architectures.
When pixel shaders started they were not scalar like now. One ancient pixel shader could perform one instruction on all components. Now we have scalar units working on a single component. I needed something consistent for my table and decided to translate scalar numbers into old pixel shader counts. Sucks I know.

Your pixel pipeline numbers are way off

Definitions of the pixel pipeline vary. I use the one saying one pixel pipeline should output one pixel per clock. In 3d games it mostly means textured, shaded, whatever pixel. I know pixel pipeline counting is outdated, ROPs are often a limiter. Time will tell if I will come up with better formula.

Why is card X missing?

I use only generic, common models. Particular specification deviations from single vendor are not included, such entries would overpopulate the table and IMO would ruin it. This rule of course is not applied for some old unique SKUs. If I missed any relevant card, you are most welcome to inform me.


glatter :at: seznam :dot: cz , I may be found in some forums like vogons and beyond3d under nick Putas